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그런데 학교에서 사흘 정도 단축하는 아이디어를 고려해 볼 수는 없을까요? 그래서 대학 졸업 후 21 ~ 22 세에 시장에 진출할 수 있도록 하는 것은 어떨까요? 젊은 사람들이 가장 많은 에너지와 열정을 가지고 있고, 시작 자금이 가장 필요하다고 생각합니다. 제 의견으로는 8 + 4/5 + 5년의 학습은 너무나도 많다고 생각하고, 현재의 체계는 오늘날의 세계에 적응되어 있지 않습니다 - 우리는 많은 불필요한 것들을 배우고 있습니다.
그런데 학교에서 사흘 정도 단축하는 아이디어를 고려해 볼 수는 없을까요? 그래서 대학 졸업 후 21 ~ 22 세에 시장에 진출할 수 있도록 하는 것은 어떨까요? 젊은 사람들이 가장 많은 에너지와 열정을 가지고 있고, 시작 자금이 가장 필요하다고 생각합니다. 제 의견으로는 8 + 4/5 + 5년의 학습은 너무나도 많다고 생각하고, 현재의 체계는 오늘날의 세계에 적응되어 있지 않습니다 - 우리는 많은 불필요한 것들을 배우고 있습니다.
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Dariusz
Not many children are being born, there are many people of retirement age, society is aging. Now it is the case that more people are receiving pensions than those who are paying into the system. It is getting worse from generation to generation. They will have to raise the retirement age sooner or later because the pension system will not withstand this.
Not many children are being born, there are many people of retirement age, society is aging. Now it is the case that more people are receiving pensions than those who are paying into the system. It is getting worse from generation to generation. They will have to raise the retirement age sooner or later because the pension system will not withstand this.

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Natalia787
In order for you to work for them as long as possible, have nothing, and be happy ;) It wouldn't surprise me if they shortened the time of education and at the same time extended the retirement age. You are not supposed to earn money or develop yourself. You are supposed to be an obedient robot who will pay taxes for as long as possible, and it would be best if you lay in a coffin once you retire. They wouldn't have to "support" you then. 🙂
In order for you to work for them as long as possible, have nothing, and be happy ;) It wouldn't surprise me if they shortened the time of education and at the same time extended the retirement age. You are not supposed to earn money or develop yourself. You are supposed to be an obedient robot who will pay taxes for as long as possible, and it would be best if you lay in a coffin once you retire. They wouldn't have to "support" you then. 🙂

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Witu
And in sum, higher education is not mandatory, and what's more, even if you graduate with your dream diploma, you often won't end up working in that field. So it's better, from a time perspective, to acquire a profession through work.
And in sum, higher education is not mandatory, and what's more, even if you graduate with your dream diploma, you often won't end up working in that field. So it's better, from a time perspective, to acquire a profession through work.

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DuplikatSamegoSiebie
Therefore, the current first pillar pension system is based on the capital accumulated by each insured person in ZUS divided by the statistical number of months lived.Since statistically, the number of months lived will increase, the pension benefits in 5, 10, or 20 years will decrease, affecting the so-called replacement rate.A pathology of the current system is the so-called minimum pensions, which cause, for example, a cleaner who has worked for about 42 years with a salary close to the minimum and capital accumulated in ZUS at the level of 1.7 million PLN to receive the same minimum pension as a female entrepreneur running a very profitable business, paying minimum contributions for 20 years, which resulted in accumulating only about 700,000 PLN in ZUS.That's why it's so important to have a second, and above all, a third pillar of the pension system (IKE, IKZE, OIPE, PPK, PPE).
Therefore, the current first pillar pension system is based on the capital accumulated by each insured person in ZUS divided by the statistical number of months lived.Since statistically, the number of months lived will increase, the pension benefits in 5, 10, or 20 years will decrease, affecting the so-called replacement rate.A pathology of the current system is the so-called minimum pensions, which cause, for example, a cleaner who has worked for about 42 years with a salary close to the minimum and capital accumulated in ZUS at the level of 1.7 million PLN to receive the same minimum pension as a female entrepreneur running a very profitable business, paying minimum contributions for 20 years, which resulted in accumulating only about 700,000 PLN in ZUS.That's why it's so important to have a second, and above all, a third pillar of the pension system (IKE, IKZE, OIPE, PPK, PPE).

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DuplikatSamegoSiebie
If I were a working woman, I would defend the current retirement age, as the introduction of the so-called senior tax relief in 2022 allows a woman to continue working after reaching the retirement age of 60 while earning a tax-free income of up to about 115,000 PLN in 2024 and at the same time increasing their future pension.There are two advantages:1. Retirement security at the age of 60,2. A very effective incentive for further work for those women who want and can continue their work.For men, this possibility opens up after reaching the age of 65.Therefore, if someone plans to gradually equalize and increase the retirement age, for example, to 67 years old, let them keep these tax benefits as compensation for those workers who will be in the transitional period.
If I were a working woman, I would defend the current retirement age, as the introduction of the so-called senior tax relief in 2022 allows a woman to continue working after reaching the retirement age of 60 while earning a tax-free income of up to about 115,000 PLN in 2024 and at the same time increasing their future pension.There are two advantages:1. Retirement security at the age of 60,2. A very effective incentive for further work for those women who want and can continue their work.For men, this possibility opens up after reaching the age of 65.Therefore, if someone plans to gradually equalize and increase the retirement age, for example, to 67 years old, let them keep these tax benefits as compensation for those workers who will be in the transitional period.

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DuplikatSamegoSiebie
Another important element that makes the first pillar of the Polish pension system (ZUS) paradoxically discriminatory towards men is the averaged way of calculating the average life expectancy, which is the same for men and women.The result is that a woman and a man who have accumulated the same capital in ZUS have the same amount of pension, which contradicts the life expectancy statistics for men and women, who statistically live shorter lives than women.
Another important element that makes the first pillar of the Polish pension system (ZUS) paradoxically discriminatory towards men is the averaged way of calculating the average life expectancy, which is the same for men and women.The result is that a woman and a man who have accumulated the same capital in ZUS have the same amount of pension, which contradicts the life expectancy statistics for men and women, who statistically live shorter lives than women.

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DuplikatSamegoSiebie
The next strange element of the first pillar of the Polish pension system is the rule that those who earn the most have their pension contributions deducted up to a certain income level. Above this level, the contribution is not collected.As a result, such individuals will achieve a replacement rate at a level not exceeding about 10-20% of their last salary, and if they want to function in retirement with expenses at the level of their last salary, they must necessarily invest for their retirement on their own.
The next strange element of the first pillar of the Polish pension system is the rule that those who earn the most have their pension contributions deducted up to a certain income level. Above this level, the contribution is not collected.As a result, such individuals will achieve a replacement rate at a level not exceeding about 10-20% of their last salary, and if they want to function in retirement with expenses at the level of their last salary, they must necessarily invest for their retirement on their own.

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