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System ZUS 是社会保险制度的支柱之一,旨在为公民和雇员提供一定的福利,特别是在无法工作、生病、退休或发生事故的情况下。在波兰和许多其他国家,缴纳 ZUS 保险费是义务性的。这意味着雇主和雇员有责任按规定范围缴纳这些费用。关于是否应该是义务性的一直是许多讨论的话题。有人认为应该是义务性的,因为这是维系社会团结和保护那些需要支持的人的方式。其他人则认为义务性限制了个人自由选择,特别是对那些希望自行投资未来的人来说。你们是怎么看的?ZUS 保险费应该是自愿的吗?你们宁愿自己存钱,还是现在的情况对你们来说可以接受?
System ZUS 是社会保险制度的支柱之一,旨在为公民和雇员提供一定的福利,特别是在无法工作、生病、退休或发生事故的情况下。在波兰和许多其他国家,缴纳 ZUS 保险费是义务性的。这意味着雇主和雇员有责任按规定范围缴纳这些费用。关于是否应该是义务性的一直是许多讨论的话题。有人认为应该是义务性的,因为这是维系社会团结和保护那些需要支持的人的方式。其他人则认为义务性限制了个人自由选择,特别是对那些希望自行投资未来的人来说。你们是怎么看的?ZUS 保险费应该是自愿的吗?你们宁愿自己存钱,还是现在的情况对你们来说可以接受?
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Zus as many specialists have already said is nothing more than a "financial pyramid". With a demographically declining and aging society, it has no chance of functioning properly.

Zus as many specialists have already said is nothing more than a "financial pyramid". With a demographically declining and aging society, it has no chance of functioning properly.

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If we have a welfare state, then ZUS must be mandatory, even in a minimal dimension.

Otherwise, knowing people's behavior, the consequences will be such that those who do not pay, in old age or misfortune, will still receive social benefits, and the rest of society will contribute to them.

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If we have a welfare state, then ZUS must be mandatory, even in a minimal dimension.

Otherwise, knowing people's behavior, the consequences will be such that those who do not pay, in old age or misfortune, will still receive social benefits, and the rest of society will contribute to them.

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In some countries this system is voluntary, in others it is compulsory. Some governments provide serious support to increase volunteerism. In my opinion, the system should be voluntary but various incentives should be encouraging.

In some countries this system is voluntary, in others it is compulsory. Some governments provide serious support to increase volunteerism. In my opinion, the system should be voluntary but various incentives should be encouraging.

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If for a moment Zus was voluntary, that means that the funds in it would be greatly depleted. What does this mean? People who have been paying contributions throughout their lives and are currently receiving benefits could suddenly not receive their deserved pensions.

I don't believe that every citizen would willingly take care of their future and save for the future. Many live day by day and would ultimately end up relying on the state.

If for a moment Zus was voluntary, that means that the funds in it would be greatly depleted. What does this mean? People who have been paying contributions throughout their lives and are currently receiving benefits could suddenly not receive their deserved pensions.

I don't believe that every citizen would willingly take care of their future and save for the future. Many live day by day and would ultimately end up relying on the state.

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Zus is the main component of the pension system at the moment. Like everything government-run, it is inefficient. Zus should not be voluntary, but rather one of the options to choose from - unless we decide to abandon the pension system altogether, which is not possible. The entire system should have been reformed long ago. At the time of introducing pension funds, we should have gradually transitioned to individual retirement accounts. Unfortunately, first the platform, and then the Law and Justice party, took away a portion of our money. It would have been a good idea to transfer the funds from OFEs to IKE, but that failed as well, as it would likely contribute to significant disruptions in the pension system - which, in my opinion, will eventually happen anyway. At the moment, we have what we have, which is a slippery slope downwards. There is often talk about the retirement age, but that is just the tip of the iceberg.

Returning to the question, looking realistically at the current state of Zus and the maneuvering possibilities, everyone should have the right to choose where they keep their retirement money. However, Zus should only collect contributions up to the minimum level for future retirees, as a safety net.

Zus is the main component of the pension system at the moment. Like everything government-run, it is inefficient. Zus should not be voluntary, but rather one of the options to choose from - unless we decide to abandon the pension system altogether, which is not possible. The entire system should have been reformed long ago. At the time of introducing pension funds, we should have gradually transitioned to individual retirement accounts. Unfortunately, first the platform, and then the Law and Justice party, took away a portion of our money. It would have been a good idea to transfer the funds from OFEs to IKE, but that failed as well, as it would likely contribute to significant disruptions in the pension system - which, in my opinion, will eventually happen anyway. At the moment, we have what we have, which is a slippery slope downwards. There is often talk about the retirement age, but that is just the tip of the iceberg.

Returning to the question, looking realistically at the current state of Zus and the maneuvering possibilities, everyone should have the right to choose where they keep their retirement money. However, Zus should only collect contributions up to the minimum level for future retirees, as a safety net.

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Of course it would be nice if ZUS (Social Insurance Institution) was voluntary… until the moment when you need comprehensive health insurance due to an accident or cancer, which goes far beyond the LuxMed package. Or when you reach retirement age and suddenly have nothing to live on because it never occurred to you to save money for old age. Or when you need a pension and those "pitiful pennies" currently provided (and truly cry out for justice), become a matter of "to eat or not to eat" for you. Certainly, the system needs to be reformed because it's an understatement to say that it is flawed. I also don't like the level of health contributions for entrepreneurs introduced by the Polish Deal. But voluntary? That's a trap. It will end with people, like in the United States, not having the means to afford treatment, so they will either refuse necessary medical care or accumulate lifelong debt. And if ZUS were voluntary, an alternative way of financing the already underfunded public healthcare system (which is a privilege that other countries envy us for) would need to be found. I hope the proponents of this option consider that.
Of course it would be nice if ZUS (Social Insurance Institution) was voluntary… until the moment when you need comprehensive health insurance due to an accident or cancer, which goes far beyond the LuxMed package. Or when you reach retirement age and suddenly have nothing to live on because it never occurred to you to save money for old age. Or when you need a pension and those "pitiful pennies" currently provided (and truly cry out for justice), become a matter of "to eat or not to eat" for you. Certainly, the system needs to be reformed because it's an understatement to say that it is flawed. I also don't like the level of health contributions for entrepreneurs introduced by the Polish Deal. But voluntary? That's a trap. It will end with people, like in the United States, not having the means to afford treatment, so they will either refuse necessary medical care or accumulate lifelong debt. And if ZUS were voluntary, an alternative way of financing the already underfunded public healthcare system (which is a privilege that other countries envy us for) would need to be found. I hope the proponents of this option consider that.

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Get rid of ZUS !!!
Get rid of ZUS !!!

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ZUS should of course be voluntary, it is a financial pyramid that limits individual freedom. It's interesting to see how this system will behave in the face of the demographic catastrophe, which is only a matter of time in Poland...

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ZUS should of course be voluntary, it is a financial pyramid that limits individual freedom. It's interesting to see how this system will behave in the face of the demographic catastrophe, which is only a matter of time in Poland...

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"If ZUS (Social Insurance Institution) was voluntary, something would have to be done about various types of benefits. People would not be paying contributions, and at some point, they would not be able to earn a living on their own and would seek help from social welfare. With ZUS, it's bad, but without ZUS, it's even worse. Although in the current situation, it's hard to dream that we will receive any retirement pension, so it might as well be no contributions. Everything would simply collapse now, rather than in several decades."
"If ZUS (Social Insurance Institution) was voluntary, something would have to be done about various types of benefits. People would not be paying contributions, and at some point, they would not be able to earn a living on their own and would seek help from social welfare. With ZUS, it's bad, but without ZUS, it's even worse. Although in the current situation, it's hard to dream that we will receive any retirement pension, so it might as well be no contributions. Everything would simply collapse now, rather than in several decades."

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Yes

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Social Insurance Institution (ZUS) is a Polish institution responsible for social security, including pensions, benefits, and health insurance. The discussion on the voluntary nature of contributions to ZUS is a controversial topic in Poland. Arguments for voluntary ZUS contributions: 1. Choice: People would have greater control over how they invest their money for retirement. 2. Competition: Private pension funds could compete with ZUS, theoretically leading to better quality services and higher returns. 3. Motivation to save: If ZUS were voluntary, people could be more motivated to actively plan and save for retirement. Arguments against voluntary ZUS contributions: 1. Social security: ZUS operates as a redistribution system in which current workers finance the pensions of current retirees. If a significant number of people opted out of paying contributions, it could threaten the system's stability. 2. Risk of insufficient savings: Not everyone may be adequately motivated or educated to save for retirement independently. As a result, they could find themselves in a difficult financial situation in old age. 3. Equality: There is concern that a voluntary system could be more beneficial for people with higher incomes, who have greater ability to save and invest.
Social Insurance Institution (ZUS) is a Polish institution responsible for social security, including pensions, benefits, and health insurance. The discussion on the voluntary nature of contributions to ZUS is a controversial topic in Poland. Arguments for voluntary ZUS contributions: 1. Choice: People would have greater control over how they invest their money for retirement. 2. Competition: Private pension funds could compete with ZUS, theoretically leading to better quality services and higher returns. 3. Motivation to save: If ZUS were voluntary, people could be more motivated to actively plan and save for retirement. Arguments against voluntary ZUS contributions: 1. Social security: ZUS operates as a redistribution system in which current workers finance the pensions of current retirees. If a significant number of people opted out of paying contributions, it could threaten the system's stability. 2. Risk of insufficient savings: Not everyone may be adequately motivated or educated to save for retirement independently. As a result, they could find themselves in a difficult financial situation in old age. 3. Equality: There is concern that a voluntary system could be more beneficial for people with higher incomes, who have greater ability to save and invest.

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It would be great if we could choose ☺️

It would be great if we could choose ☺️

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No, because not everyone would pay these contributions then, and what comes with it? More people on social welfare at retirement age because they didn't pay contributions and need to live off something, so they would turn to social welfare offices for help. Let's not deceive ourselves, but that's the truth.

No, because not everyone would pay these contributions then, and what comes with it? More people on social welfare at retirement age because they didn't pay contributions and need to live off something, so they would turn to social welfare offices for help. Let's not deceive ourselves, but that's the truth.

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I have no personal opinions or beliefs. The decision whether the Social Insurance Institution (Zakład Ubezpieczeń Społecznych or ZUS) should be voluntary or mandatory is a political matter and requires consideration of many factors, such as the social welfare system, the financial stability of the system, and the needs of society. This is an important issue that should be the subject of public debate and decided upon by relevant institutions and government authorities. The final decision depends on the authorities and legislators.
I have no personal opinions or beliefs. The decision whether the Social Insurance Institution (Zakład Ubezpieczeń Społecznych or ZUS) should be voluntary or mandatory is a political matter and requires consideration of many factors, such as the social welfare system, the financial stability of the system, and the needs of society. This is an important issue that should be the subject of public debate and decided upon by relevant institutions and government authorities. The final decision depends on the authorities and legislators.

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Yes, ZUS is a scam and fraud. Only state employees, judges, and police officers will get something there. The rest will get pennies. Especially self-employed individuals during Tusk's tenure and small entrepreneurs. ZUS employs 40,000 people in 200 luxurious palaces, during AI the staff should be reduced to 100 people and the palaces should be turned into nurseries and kindergartens.
Yes, ZUS is a scam and fraud. Only state employees, judges, and police officers will get something there. The rest will get pennies. Especially self-employed individuals during Tusk's tenure and small entrepreneurs. ZUS employs 40,000 people in 200 luxurious palaces, during AI the staff should be reduced to 100 people and the palaces should be turned into nurseries and kindergartens.

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The issue of the obligation of ZUS is usually regulated by the legal provisions of a given country. In Poland, ZUS (Social Insurance Institution) is mandatory for the majority of people working under an employment contract. Decisions regarding whether ZUS should be voluntary are a political and social matter that requires consideration of many factors, such as financing the pension system, social protection, and social security for citizens. Debates on this topic vary depending on the country and economic situation.

In my opinion, every Pole should be able to decide for themselves.

The issue of the obligation of ZUS is usually regulated by the legal provisions of a given country. In Poland, ZUS (Social Insurance Institution) is mandatory for the majority of people working under an employment contract. Decisions regarding whether ZUS should be voluntary are a political and social matter that requires consideration of many factors, such as financing the pension system, social protection, and social security for citizens. Debates on this topic vary depending on the country and economic situation.

In my opinion, every Pole should be able to decide for themselves.

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In my opinion, ZUS bookmarks should be voluntary or should not exist at all.
In my opinion, ZUS bookmarks should be voluntary or should not exist at all.

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Personally, I believe that ZUS contributions should be voluntary. Of course, the ZUS system has its goals and provides important benefits for citizens and employees in case of need. However, the mandatory nature of these contributions limits individual freedom of choice. Imagine that every employee had the opportunity to independently invest their funds for the future. This would be fair because everyone could decide on their finances and social security based on their own needs and preferences. Some could choose to have larger savings, while others could invest in a different way. This would give us greater control over our future. Nevertheless, there is also an argument for social solidarity and protecting those who need support. If ZUS contributions were voluntary, not everyone could afford them in full, which could lead to greater social inequality. Therefore, it is important to find a balance between individual freedom of choice and concern for other members of society. However, ultimately, I believe that this decision should belong to every citizen. Everyone should have the opportunity to independently manage their finances and decide about their future. Nevertheless, it is important to ensure a social security system for those who are unable to independently provide for themselves. Therefore, voluntary ZUS contributions combined with a certain minimum level of support for everyone may be a solution that takes into account both individual choices and social solidarity. In conclusion, I am in favor of voluntary ZUS contributions. I believe that everyone should have the opportunity to independently plan and decide on their social security. However, at the same time, it is important to provide appropriate support for those who need assistance. Therefore, it is important to find a balance between individual freedom of choice and concern for society as a whole.

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Personally, I believe that ZUS contributions should be voluntary. Of course, the ZUS system has its goals and provides important benefits for citizens and employees in case of need. However, the mandatory nature of these contributions limits individual freedom of choice. Imagine that every employee had the opportunity to independently invest their funds for the future. This would be fair because everyone could decide on their finances and social security based on their own needs and preferences. Some could choose to have larger savings, while others could invest in a different way. This would give us greater control over our future. Nevertheless, there is also an argument for social solidarity and protecting those who need support. If ZUS contributions were voluntary, not everyone could afford them in full, which could lead to greater social inequality. Therefore, it is important to find a balance between individual freedom of choice and concern for other members of society. However, ultimately, I believe that this decision should belong to every citizen. Everyone should have the opportunity to independently manage their finances and decide about their future. Nevertheless, it is important to ensure a social security system for those who are unable to independently provide for themselves. Therefore, voluntary ZUS contributions combined with a certain minimum level of support for everyone may be a solution that takes into account both individual choices and social solidarity. In conclusion, I am in favor of voluntary ZUS contributions. I believe that everyone should have the opportunity to independently plan and decide on their social security. However, at the same time, it is important to provide appropriate support for those who need assistance. Therefore, it is important to find a balance between individual freedom of choice and concern for society as a whole.

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I support this, but people should be given some other options for saving for retirement. Ones that are profitable and encourage saving. There are already IKE or IKZE accounts, but not everyone wants to invest in the stock market. People are afraid of investing and another form of saving should be made available to them, one that is more secure but still profitable enough to be worthwhile. Maybe some subsidies from the state for the persistent.

I support this, but people should be given some other options for saving for retirement. Ones that are profitable and encourage saving. There are already IKE or IKZE accounts, but not everyone wants to invest in the stock market. People are afraid of investing and another form of saving should be made available to them, one that is more secure but still profitable enough to be worthwhile. Maybe some subsidies from the state for the persistent.

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In mid-January, the National Debt Register published information regarding the savings of Poles. According to the data contained in the report, 43 percent of respondents admitted to having no savings for unforeseen situations, commonly referred to as "rainy days." However, half of the respondents stated that they have some savings, with a small percentage (7 percent) refusing to answer this question.

It is worth noting that groups that more frequently have savings include men, individuals between the ages of 18 and 34, and those with a higher level of education. However, the National Debt Register identifies a negative trend. Just over a year ago, when surveying respondents about the state of their savings, only one-fourth of them claimed to have no savings whatsoever.

This proves that more and more Poles are finding themselves in a financially difficult situation, without basic protection in case of unexpected expenses. This also encourages reflection on the need for financial education and savings strategies in order to secure oneself for unforeseen circumstances.

So my question is, if the Social Insurance Institution were to be abolished, who will support the 67% of Poles? I believe there would be 2% who could confidently save for retirement...

I know, I know... many people will say they could have saved- the fundamental question now is: if they don't save and become strong enough to snatch your bag or break your mother's necklace, what then? At best, they will enter your home and take only valuable items?

The system is terrible, I understand that, but most people cannot save.

In mid-January, the National Debt Register published information regarding the savings of Poles. According to the data contained in the report, 43 percent of respondents admitted to having no savings for unforeseen situations, commonly referred to as "rainy days." However, half of the respondents stated that they have some savings, with a small percentage (7 percent) refusing to answer this question.

It is worth noting that groups that more frequently have savings include men, individuals between the ages of 18 and 34, and those with a higher level of education. However, the National Debt Register identifies a negative trend. Just over a year ago, when surveying respondents about the state of their savings, only one-fourth of them claimed to have no savings whatsoever.

This proves that more and more Poles are finding themselves in a financially difficult situation, without basic protection in case of unexpected expenses. This also encourages reflection on the need for financial education and savings strategies in order to secure oneself for unforeseen circumstances.

So my question is, if the Social Insurance Institution were to be abolished, who will support the 67% of Poles? I believe there would be 2% who could confidently save for retirement...

I know, I know... many people will say they could have saved- the fundamental question now is: if they don't save and become strong enough to snatch your bag or break your mother's necklace, what then? At best, they will enter your home and take only valuable items?

The system is terrible, I understand that, but most people cannot save.

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"I'm already used to it, so I don't care if it's mandatory or not."
"I'm already used to it, so I don't care if it's mandatory or not."

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Yes, ZUS should be voluntary. The money I save for ZUS could already be invested now.
Yes, ZUS should be voluntary. The money I save for ZUS could already be invested now.

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Let it remain in this form, but let it be inherited by future generations without any meaningless formalities.
Let it remain in this form, but let it be inherited by future generations without any meaningless formalities.

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What is the fruit of your life? And what if you could eat it yourself? And/or share it with your loved ones?
What is the fruit of your life? And what if you could eat it yourself? And/or share it with your loved ones?

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Powinny być dobrowolne, ewentualnie zmienione zasady działania.

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They should be voluntary, or alternatively, changed rules of operation.

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Powinny być dobrowolne, ewentualnie zmienione zasady działania.

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They should be voluntary, or alternatively, changed rules of operation.

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ZUS as a pension system currently should be voluntary or abolished for young people (no possibility of joining). Demographic data is merciless and today people who start paying contributions at the moment of retirement are estimated to receive 20%-30% of their last salary, so there is no point in deluding ourselves that this will be enough for an average citizen to survive.

The Polish state currently subsidizes ZUS to cover benefits paid to current retirees, so it would be best for Polish citizens not to involve more people in this system. Let the state pay money to those it is already obligated to and not create a false belief that today's young person will be financially secure by the state in old age. On the contrary - it should be communicated directly that we have failed and you have to take care of yourself.

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ZUS as a pension system currently should be voluntary or abolished for young people (no possibility of joining). Demographic data is merciless and today people who start paying contributions at the moment of retirement are estimated to receive 20%-30% of their last salary, so there is no point in deluding ourselves that this will be enough for an average citizen to survive.

The Polish state currently subsidizes ZUS to cover benefits paid to current retirees, so it would be best for Polish citizens not to involve more people in this system. Let the state pay money to those it is already obligated to and not create a false belief that today's young person will be financially secure by the state in old age. On the contrary - it should be communicated directly that we have failed and you have to take care of yourself.

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